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Old 12-18-13, 05:32 PM   #1
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Dead horse, prepare to be beaten (winter road bike tire question)

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Hoping some of you can lend your experience. It's been snowing quite a bit up by me lately, and I've been riding my mountain bike with half-inflated 26x2.1 Kenda Small Block 8s. It does surprisingly well in the snow as long as I take care in turns, but it's a bit sluggish on those days when the roads have been plowed and are mostly clear, but there's slush here and there. So I got the brilliant idea of trying to ride my road bike, what with my newly purchased shoe covers being attached to my shoes (only the road bike is clipless). However, I don't feel comfortable riding my summer slicks through any kind of slushiness. As such, I'm hoping one of you may have the answer to the following question:

Does anyone know of any well treaded (or even knobby) tires that do well in snow, fit on a road bike (I'm guessing 700x28c is my upper limit) and don't cost $70 per tire?

I've been looking and looking and can't seem to find anything in 700x28 that fits the bill. However, I'm aware of the fact that some larger tires will occasionally measure narrower than spec, and may clear my brakes. My rims are 30mm wide, so I'm hoping there might be a way to fanagle a decent tire onto there so I can enjoy my road bike on those clear days.

Thanks in advance for any insight you may shed!

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Old 12-18-13, 05:57 PM   #2
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http://www.niagaracycle.com/categori...black-sidewall
^ something like this i assume is what you mean

i would be very surprised if anything but the sknniest tires labelled 28mm wold fit in any modern road bike though
you could pull an old 10 speed out of a dumpster
and use that as your winter bike
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Personally i ride 23mm slicks in the winter at 110psi. They cut right through the slop, snow and crap on the roads. I find wider tires at lower presure just slide everywhere. Also skinner tire allows for full fenders which are great for keeping the slop off you.
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The 32mm nokian hakkapeliittas fit on my track bike so they may very well fit your road bike.
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The rims are 30mm wide ? On the road bike? Conti makes some winter compound tires. Studs on the mt bike?
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Did you mean 30mm wide tires?&nbsp; 30mm is wide for even MTB rims.<br><br>This is probably the narrowest commercially available studded tire out there at 30mm wide.&nbsp; http://45nrth.com/products/tires/xerxes
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Also, if your bike is like mine and has plenty of width for a tire to clear but not a lot of height this is the measurement for the height of the tire to clear. This is the response when I asked about clearance.

These will need at the very least 32mm from the rim to clear.

The intended design is to work with anything from a Cyclocross bike to a road bike with a long reach caliper brake.

I hope this helps, let me know if you have other questions.
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http://www.niagaracycle.com/categori...black-sidewall
^ something like this i assume is what you mean

i would be very surprised if anything but the sknniest tires labelled 28mm wold fit in any modern road bike though
you could pull an old 10 speed out of a dumpster
and use that as your winter bike
I'd feel more comfortable on those than my slicks, but something with knobs seems like it might be even better. Looking for an old 10 speed isn't a bad idea, though with my stumpy legs it'll be something of a challenge to find a bike I won't nut myself on.


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Personally i ride 23mm slicks in the winter at 110psi. They cut right through the slop, snow and crap on the roads. I find wider tires at lower presure just slide everywhere. Also skinner tire allows for full fenders which are great for keeping the slop off you.
Good to know, I'm just a little worried about those times when there might be ice under the slop. I can just see myself going sideways when I twitch the bars a little.

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The 32mm nokian hakkapeliittas fit on my track bike so they may very well fit your road bike.
Those look very promising, especially if you say they fit on your track bike! Though, I assume you don't have caliper brakes on there, which is where my width issue comes in. Any chance you've got a caliper and could take me a width and height measurement? Don't think any of my LBSs will stock these, and it'd be a shame to buy a pair just to have it not fit.

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The rims are 30mm wide ? On the road bike? Conti makes some winter compound tires. Studs on the mt bike?
Thanks for the catch, I derped on that one . Was looking at the wheel specs page. 30mm vee depth, not rim width.

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Also, if your bike is like mine and has plenty of width for a tire to clear but not a lot of height this is the measurement for the height of the tire to clear. This is the response when I asked about clearance.

These will need at the very least 32mm from the rim to clear.

The intended design is to work with anything from a Cyclocross bike to a road bike with a long reach caliper brake.

I hope this helps, let me know if you have other questions.
Thanks,
Those look pretty promising as well, and it looks like a number of my LBSs can get them! To me, it looks like the bigger concern would be the tires clearing the calipers when the brakes are engaged. Hmmm.....



Thanks for all the input guys! I've got some measurements to take and some things to think about.
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If you think half-inflated Kenda Small Block 8s are sluggish, wait until you try some studded tires...

Unless you actually ride on packed snow a lot, studs are probably a bad idea.
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Personally i ride 23mm slicks in the winter at 110psi. They cut right through the slop, snow and crap on the roads. I find wider tires at lower presure just slide everywhere. Also skinner tire allows for full fenders which are great for keeping the slop off you.
Believe it or not but its actually possible to fit a tire wider than 23mm with a fender with the right kind of bike . . .
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Those look very promising, especially if you say they fit on your track bike! Though, I assume you don't have caliper brakes on there, which is where my width issue comes in. Any chance you've got a caliper and could take me a width and height measurement? Don't think any of my LBSs will stock these, and it'd be a shame to buy a pair just to have it not fit.
I actually do run a regular tektro calliper in the front and the tires fit between them without rubbing. The axel-to-crown length on my fork is a little long though (368mm) so it is possible that these wouldn't work for everybody. I don't have a calliper but if I just eyeball with a ruler it looks pretty close to 30mm across and 28mm from the top of the rim lip to the top of tire.
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Believe it or not but its actually possible to fit a tire wider than 23mm with a fender with the right kind of bike . . .
Wow, thanks.
But, the thing is, I have the right kind of bike for winter, a fixed gear, and the smaller tires with fenders allows for less snow buildup under the fender.
And why would I want wider tires anyways, they suck for the conditions i described.
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