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    Winter biker #1 photo on yahoo news story (unfortunately not best foot forward)

    This is the #1 position lead photo presently on a yahoo news story:





    And this is the news story in question:

    http://news.yahoo.com/strong-winter-...220338729.html




    If you had the opportunity to give this guy a few pointers what would they be (there are already some comments on the photo in the photo gallery for the story, click on the center of the top photo and then scroll to the first photo) some which appear to be from the usual bike haters and a few pointing out a few problems not that he is riding but how he is doing so.

    Your guys thoughts.

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    As to a photo that is indeed best foot forward and shows on-roadway winter cyclists who know what they are doing try this one:



    Although I personally would be a little further out from the parked cars especially while approaching the one without snow on it to stay out of the door zone then some of the cyclists on the other side of the road in that picture. And although I'm seeing some good headlights on the other side tail lights aren't quite up to my standard.

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    Make sure the rum in your drink is extra hot, because it will cool down faster while riding. Other than that, try not to spill it.

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    Honestly the only thing that catches my eye is the riding on the left side of the road.

    other than that looks like a normal commuter

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    Quote Originally Posted by elcruxio View Post
    Honestly the only thing that catches my eye is the riding on the left side of the road. . .
    Yah, that's what I mainly noticed myself first off, but as others pointed out if you blow up the picture and look closely the bag he has hanging on his bars is a back-pack and his shoes are loose tennis shoes that are not laced up. Basically guy riding down wrong side of road with only one hand on the handlebars that have an off balance weight on the other end which designed to go on the back not hang on the end of bar and pedaling with unlaced loss shoes (and also no gloves but if its not too cold or too far even I do that). Reportably carrying an open cup containing hot coffee.

    Some rather harsh comments have resulted as to his intelligence and how he "deserves" what he is "going to get". The I hope he wrecks and wears the coffee and he is going to scald himself and that someone should throw a snowball at him and knock him down kind of comments.

    Except for the riding "Salmon" thing, I really don't care and its no skin off my back. Wrong side of the road thing does bother me I was fairly seriously injured in a bike/bike collision with a salmon years ago who slammed into me while I was going up-hill and he was coming downhill on a narrow one bike wide shoulder edge of a road with heavy traffic to my left and a steep drop off to the right, he never hit his brakes and was screaming at me to get out of his way (where?) and I was hospitalized with broken ribs and internal organ injuries. So I don't have any use for salmon and I do consider it an activity that is my concern that directly affects my rights and safety. Everything else, is his own issue and are not what I would do but nothing that effects me.

    They have added some more pictures to the front and or re-arranged them so it isn't the #1 position anymore but when I first saw it it was and was the only reason I clicked on the story.

    Comments on stories or pictures like this one always turn my gut the wrong way. I remember a few years ago when a local paper (The Missoulian) had a front page picture of a cyclist commuter on the road in about a half foot of loose fresh snow (and all bundled up and riding on the right side of the road and waiting at a red light with the rest of traffic) and the caption underneath mocking the cyclist as having wheels, but not enough of them and that he should get a four wheel for this kind of weather. I wrote a scolding letter to the editor on that one (wasn't me the picture was taken of and I didn't know the guy) which they refused to print. Commenting on the news story would be worthless since It's my experience that online news story places the bloodthirsty cycle haters far outweigh cyclists and sending an e-mail to yahoo also does nothing. So I posted this thread here. Gives me some satisfaction to hear some decent comments that aren't anti-cyclist but at worst are just good suggestions about a better way to ride if necessary. I will give yahoo more credit then the local rag previously mentioned in that they at least had the decency to not put some nasty anti-cyclist caption on the photo and just put the photo up, the commentators though are another story, there are nasty anti-cyclist comments on this photo both in the comment section for the photo itself and in the comment section for the story that it is attached too (and for a while was the first photo on the top of the story).

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    @ alan s

    Can't confirm that for sure myself since I've never had more then one drink in my system when start out on a ride and never drink while riding, but yah, I bet it would cool down faster while riding especially in a cup with an open top. Reportably its just coffee in the cup, but your not the first one to think it might be something a little more. If it is alcohol I'm just glad he is riding a bike and not behind the wheel of a car or truck. Much less dangerous to others piloting a bicycle while drunk then a car or truck. Although if one must ride drunk or while drinking a horse is the best thing to be riding, built in designated driver. I've done that one !!! Just hang slack and let the horse have its head and only give him a light tug to indicate general direction and he/she will get you where you are going without incident (mainly back to base camp in my experience).
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbo1889 View Post
    Yah, that's what I mainly noticed myself first off, but as others pointed out if you blow up the picture and look closely the bag he has hanging on his bars is a back-pack and his shoes are loose tennis shoes that are not laced up. Basically guy riding down wrong side of road with only one hand on the handlebars that have an off balance weight on the other end which designed to go on the back not hang on the end of bar and pedaling with unlaced loss shoes (and also no gloves but if its not too cold or too far even I do that). Repeatably carrying an open cup containing hot coffee.

    Some rather harsh comments have resulted as to his intelligence and how he "deserves" what he is "going to get". The I hope he wrecks and wears the coffee and he is going to scald himself and that someone should throw a snowball at him and knock him down kind of comments.
    Yes I noticed. Unfortunately there are people who take life and cycling too seriously...

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    You might put me in the "too seriously" catagory as well. Main reason I posted here though was to confirm my own sanity among a friendly crowd that the only real issue in the photo was the wrong side of the road riding.

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    My local mayor thinks I should be arrested....
    https://soundcloud.com/#newzjunky/ma...yclists-in-the

    Listen in at about the 1:30 mark.

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    Listened to it, what a joker.

    How exactly are bicycles in winter "a danger to motorists"? Some argument can be made that bicycling in winter puts the cyclists at worse odds of being hit by a motorist but must be one heck of a high speed armor piercing tipped bicycle to be a danger to motorists.

    Just loved the "unfortunately they have their rights" comment, yah back at you (insert term of your choice for person of very low intelligence that is full of oneself), unfortunately you have your rights too. Everyone should show at least some respect for the rights of others rather then laminate about how its so unfair that they can't have their own rights and all those other annoying people shouldn't have their rights as well, makes it so much easier in life if your the only one with rights and everyone else is a (insert very nasty term for bottom class person, is the literal meaning of "peasant" and is two words the last one being "on").

    I will agree though that in the worst surface conditions a trike can be better then a bike especially if it is two of three wheels drive. But still no reason to call winter bicycling dangerous to others or a significant hazard to oneself if done correctly. In-fact since the topic of the clip at the beginning seems to be clearing side-walks for pedestrians I would say that a good bike with good studded snow tires is probably a safer bet for everyone then trying to walk in some of the really slick icy conditions and you have better grip and control and are less likely to hurt yourself or take down someone else in a fall or fall into traffic.

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