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    Winter tires, studded or not?

    This will be my first winter as a non fair weather rider. What one set of tires would everyone recommend for my first set of winter tires?

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    Bike: Cannondale CAADX w/disc

    Do I go for a set of non studded snow tires or go all in and get a set of carbide studded tires?

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    If you plan to be out on icy roads at all, studs are the only way to go. I'm a fan of Schwalbe Marathon Winter tires but there are a lot of them out there. Get carbide studs and make sure you have some studs on the outer shoulder of the tire as well as the middle. I actually find the studs toward the shoulder of the tire more important as going in a straight line on smooth ice isn't that difficult. It's when you try to change direction or when a tire tries to slip out sideways that you need the studs.

    As you only use them in the winter and the roads are usually ice and snow covered, your snow tires probably won't get a lot of wear and will last you several winters, so the more expensive tires are actually a good long-term investment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Granturismonut View Post
    Do I go for a set of non studded snow tires or go all in and get a set of carbide studded tires?
    Riding on ice is much, much easier, and safer, with studded tires. Carbide studs are the way to go. Studs only help on ice. Knobbies help in snow.

    I swap my Nokian W240 carbide studded knobby tires and my regular street tires according to conditions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaywalk3r View Post
    I swap my Nokian W240 carbide studded knobby tires and my regular street tires according to conditions.
    Can studded tires be ridden on plowed streets when there might be a chance for occasional patches of ice? I don't plan on riding in deep snow only want to stay safe riding through the winter months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Granturismonut View Post
    Can studded tires be ridden on plowed streets when there might be a chance for occasional patches of ice? I don't plan on riding in deep snow only want to stay safe riding through the winter months.
    Google "Peter White studded tires." You will get a ton of good info. Personally, I think studded tires are a necessity on ice. I've been surprised by a few too many hard falls and bad drivers on ice to to think otherwise.

    I usually run Nokian W106s, but pretty much live on ice for well over 6 months. The current set is still in good shape after about 5 years of commuting averaging anywhere from 10 to 25+ miles per day. What works for you, will depend on what your conditions are like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granturismonut View Post
    Can studded tires be ridden on plowed streets when there might be a chance for occasional patches of ice? I don't plan on riding in deep snow only want to stay safe riding through the winter months.
    Yes. I keep them on until the streets are clear, not just plowed. But once the streets are clear and dry, I swap them out for my regular tires, because my regular tires provide a much more enjoyable ride on dry pavement. Plus, it's hard on studded tires to track stand, brake hard, or otherwise ride aggressively, things from which I don't like to refrain.

    Some people prefer to ride on their studded tires through the entire winter, or install them on a second bike or wheel set.
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    ^ Yep

    My gravel mutt becomes my winter bike with the addition of studded tires and fenders. I leave the studded tires on as long as there is a significant chance of ice. I've been surprised a couple of times when I was riding on nice dry roads in the early spring or late fall only to encounter a patch of ice in a shaded area, or to get caught when the temperature dropped and those wet roads at 35F become black ice at 29F. As mentioned, hard acceleration or braking should be avoided but otherwise carbide spikes have no problem on paved roads outside of a buzz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biker51 View Post
    Metal-studded tires are ILLEGAL in the United States of America! Straight from Washington, DC.
    When studded tires are outlawed only outlaws will ride studded tires.

    I run marathon winters from November to April.

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    Without studs=0 (though the studs are on my boots)
    Rides on ice = every winter
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    All of Missouri experiences freezing temperatures every year. In winter there is an average of about 110 days with temperature below 32 F

    ... so yeah, studs
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    Unless you have an extra wheel set to swap out quickly, it's not worth it to have studded tires. I just have a really nice set of knobbies, and I've never fallen on ice. I have deliberately found sheer ice-covered walking trails that are abandoned in the winter, and I practiced riding them. When turning, I often put a foot down to slide along, as it gives me a triangle of contact on the ground. With practice, I am safer on my bike than my two feet, in really icy conditions.

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    Definitely studs. You never have to worry about ice.

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    Great on ice, but "challenging" elsewhere. Mine sat idle this past winter.
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    If you're looking for an "in-betweener" tire, I've had good luck with the continental top contact winter tire. Here 2 reviews:

    Review: Continental TopContact Winter II tires - VeloNews.com

    Tested: Continental Top Contact Winter Tires Mountain Flyer Magazine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishmonger View Post
    Unless you have an extra wheel set to swap out quickly, it's not worth it to have studded tires. I just have a really nice set of knobbies, and I've never fallen on ice. I have deliberately found sheer ice-covered walking trails that are abandoned in the winter, and I practiced riding them. When turning, I often put a foot down to slide along, as it gives me a triangle of contact on the ground. With practice, I am safer on my bike than my two feet, in really icy conditions.
    Uhh, what planet is Utah from? I guessing there it has less freeze thaw than say Missouri or MA. No studs here = crash and burn or broken bones. I have 2 bikes with just studded tires. How does no studs do on rutted icy MUP's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leebo View Post
    ...No studs here = crash and burn or broken bones. I have 2 bikes with just studded tires. How does no studs do on rutted icy MUP's?...
    I agree. That's great if you are able to make it through the winter without studs where you live/ride. That would not work for me on the icy rutted paths I ride.

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