I have learned that what you read on the thermometer and what you experience out there going 15-20 mph are starkly different. Wind is the killer, whether the air is still, or even if you have a tailwind, you're still 'against the wind.' This morning it was 30 F, but wind chill was 21 F, and I suspect that riding home was more like 15 F. I bought these and am extremely happy with the results. Same as the pogies, but made of neoprene.