The wheels has been true both ways and the tires I took off always ran true its just these new tires I have not been able to center them on the rims and the rims are like new I had them check at my LBS ever thing checks out good on them its just these tires I may go and get some other tires and give them a try but I did want the Schwalbe Marathon Plus Tires on so this spring I could go touring and not have to worry about flats. So much for that ideal.