I've got a Thron tubed Univega with 9 speed Campy Veloce/Mirage listed in the NYC metro market for $350 and I've only received a few nibbles. Granted the DeBernardi has an Italian name, and the lug construction does look nicer than my Univega, but I think $450 would be a stretch, especially with older 105. But hey, you might as well try it. You can always drop your price.