Originally Posted by
Monkey Face
Reason for asking is that I'd like a 'second' bike that I can take out in wet, muddy conditions and not have to be too precious about it - preferably alloy or carbon
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With the need to ride in wet, muddy conditions as your primary requirement, I'd be looking for a titanium or stainless (953, XCr) frameset. Personally, I'd avoid aluminum, but that's just me.