Originally Posted by
mike868y
Most of the benefits of red (zero loss on the rear) is in the shifter. The only thing you gain with a red rd is lighter weight. Force fd is better than the red one anyway.
I guess it just depends on what the price point is then - it's really too bad that they haven't taken care of the Ti issue with the red fd because the red group is pretty impressive by even the most strict ww's.