I've ridden a B-72 in an upright only position and loved it. I am currently riding an old Brooks Professional on a bike that I split the riding time btwn the drops and riding on the hoods. The saddle fits my arse like a well worn baseball glove. I love it! A B-17 is next on my to buy list as far as saddles go, I just haven't gotten that far yet. Did you go on Brooks' website? They have great pics that might help you figure out what will cradle your butt the best. Good luck. Hope this helps a bit.