Originally Posted by
Papa Tom
Man, the hotter weather is sure bringing out the dark side of this group's participants.
Stacy, I guess I wasn't clear that I was addressing adamant's request for a "keep it simple" scenic ride around Manhattan. If he and his wife have never ridden in Manhattan (or, perhaps, haven't spent more than ten minutes on a bicycle in the past twenty years and thought a ride around NYC would be cute and romantic) I would be irresponsible to suggest that riding through the streets of midtown (even the few blocks between Penn Station and the West Side Greenway) is "simple" or safe.
I have done this ride many times alone and it was fine. I also tried it with an inexperienced cyclist once and the guy nearly got splattered by a bus as he was mounting his bike a few seconds after we exited Penn Station. I just thought it might be a good idea to swing to the side of caution, as I know very little about Adamant and his wife.
C'mon, Stacy. There's been enough negative energy flowing around this group lately. Pick your shots a little more judiciously, OK?
Me negative? Hey I'm not the one sending them onto the subway, up and down several flights of stairs, and through one of the City's major commuter hubs,[strike] which is actually South Ferry not South Street.[/strike]

Not to forget that tourist mecca we call Battery Park where the great masses board boats to Liberty and Ellis islands.
They could probably walk the four blocks from Eighth Avenue to Twelfth Avenue in far less time than it takes to ride the subway from Penn Station to South Ferry.