I think you misread the implications of Road Fan's first paragraph. With all due respect, your post count indicates that you are a relative new comer. Having been part of the 50+ for bit longer, I can say that there has been a consistent tone to this forum - one of acceptance, civility, gentle humor, and, perhaps most importantly, respect. It also appears that every so often we'll go through a period of rough waters where these qualities are challenged. Typically this happens when a small number of individuals behave in ways outside the norms that Road Fan has described. The issue is not agreement, the issue is the manner in which the conversation is being held. My experience has been that many of the more seasoned members of this forum simply lay low until the behavior dies away. However, every now and again we lose members who were real sources of knowledge, wisdom, inspiration, and enjoyment. They simply reach the point where the rewards are not worth the aggravation. A week ago I started a thread "Are things getting a bit testy lately?" in an effort to have people consider the tone of their posts and remind those of us who have been around for a while that we have an admirable history of the qualities I mentioned at the beginning of this post. Yet, it appears that the current disruptions have not abated, and we're losing a member who I've valued. There is little funny about that to me. With that said, here's hoping we regain the qualities that have kept me coming here on a regular basis.