aha, ok then. Well, hey I don't know this enough to know, you know :-D
I'll keep looking and rollin the dice. Thanks guys, you're troopers. Either way I hope to get more into this bike thing, I'm taking apart and rebuilding my old C.Itoh right now as a learning experience, can't wait to get into a slightly nicer frame.
Hmm. sucks that this guy knows about as little as I do about his bike! Thank you for the insight fellas.
Go figure I clicked the link in his sig and its his site! haha.