Put a down payment on it today!!!....getting fitted for it specifically next week, but a check on the trainer looked and felt (no pun intended) good.....I think I got a steel for an "entry level" bike....CArbon frame Felt 2010 B16 for 1600...with shoes and pedals and tax 1911.....shopping around do not think I could have bought new carbon anywhere near that.......the aluminum S22 was 1500, so I believe I made out nicely....I realize the 2011 B16 has ultrega, but this has 105 and should be good for me for awhile.