Originally Posted by
ianbrettcooper
Don't you mean 'fallible'? Clearly, if the light isn't working, you do what the law allows, and what cycling instructors teach - you wait until it's clear that the light is faulty, then you proceed carefully. But your argument is a straw man: here we're not talking about a faulty light. We're talking about one that's working perfectly well, but one that is being used by a libertarian who is in a hurry, and who wants to ignore safety rules that might inconvenience him for a few seconds.
LOL define "working perfectly well." In my book (and state) that means responding to cyclists. As far as my "infallible" comment, it was merely a parroting of your use of "infallible senses."
The bottom line is that no matter what if at some point you have to chose to go on a red light... you have to rely on those same senses. (Heck I rely on those senses even when the light is green)