Well i went to the local bike shop today at lunch break from work (actually im still at work i love being the boss....HA HA HA) and they are trying to get me a Kona Hoss delux in a 16" frame. They said that the frame is like $210 thats a real good deal. They also had a Redline monocou ( i think thats what its called) but that thing is a single speed but it does come with a fork rigid of course.