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Old 06-17-05, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by pgoat
Need a little advice:

given the same frame quality (mid 80s built in Japan, lugged butted cro-mo), would you pay the same for a bike spec'd with Shimano 600 or Suntour/Dia Compe AX 5000 components?

If not, which one would cost more/less and why?

The 600 bike had Wolber Super Champion Alpine rims, the Suntour bike had Araya 7000. Only other 'quality features' I could spot were tapered seatstay-to-seat tube welds with the maker's name on the 600 bike (plain welds on the Sun Tour), and rear drop out screws on the 600's vertical slots (no screws, vertical slots on the ST).

Both bikes are from 1985. Not sure if the Suntour is has a Sugino GP-130 ax 5000 crankset vs the standard 600 shimano crank.

I have a chance to buy the used ST bike - the 600 just sold for $150 in mint NOS condition; should the ST bike be less? a lot less? It's in very nice condition , maybe some teeny scratches here & there but nice.
I'd take early shiamno index over the same in suntour(ax5000 is index) any day. Shimano works.
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