Thanks for the reply redtires. I don't really want it actually. I'm more of an old steel honk. Thought it might be worth enough to ride for a bit and resell for a bit more. I do have a 1990? Trek 1000 that'll do for now as far as a "newer" bike goes. I'll assume what ive read about them is coming from serious tri-bike owners which I couldn't be farther from. It looks like nsodmordex is inquiring about the same thing so I'll pass.