Ultegra is more than a pound heavier than red -
http://totalcycling.com/component-weights.html
My current bike is all force except for the brifters and yeah, the zero loss is nice. It's not dramatic and mandatory but it's nice.
Ultegra is also very nice, it's not like if you get one bike the other will be a dog because it has brand B drive train components.
You would think that somebody interested in shelling out that much money on a bike would have a better idea what he wanted though.
