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Old 05-06-12, 08:53 PM
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I've brought a fair bit of supporting evidence into the discussion. The traffic regulation itself "curb or edge of roadway", the Florida Bicycle Association, the florida bicycle guidebook for law enforcement, florida roadway design standards.

BTW, Florida's traffic law definitions (which lynchpin your position) are not inclusive.... the florida traffic definitions don't even define bikelane, gutter, curb, or shoulder.... wow, does this mean florida bikelanes, curbs, gutters or shoulders actually don't exist. benjdm?

maybe bike lanes don't even exist in florida!!! Digital cowboy, benjdm has pointed out florida bike lanes actually don't exist, you're all off the hook on this mandatory bikelane business!


again, benjdm... what you might think of as a shoulder has previously been characterized in florida as an 'undesignated bikelane', designed and intended for bicycle (vehicular) travel, and therefore considered part of the 'roadway'. the space to the right of keri's group is not a 'shoulder' it is part of the roadway. it has a curb. it doesn't meet FDOT minimum specifications for a shoulder, it had been space allocated on the road for bike traffic (vehicles) and would be considered under the sparse FL traffic defintions part of the space intended for vehicular (bicycle) traffic.

clear yet?

everything in florida traffic law, bicycle regulation and road design points to that space as part of the road. the florida Bicycle advocacy group tasked with educating law enforcement about bicycle law considers that part of the road.

misinterpreting the law to suggest riders need not consider this space as part of the roadway when then ask themselves 'where is as far right as practicable?' is what got florida bicyclists into this mess of a mandatory bikelane law in the first place!

what is it with the hard core, politicized vehicular cyclists and their ardent misinterpretations of traffic laws? You folks are cycling advocacy's worst enemies, honestly.

"Lets ride this way" BAM mandatory bikelane law, only the seventh in the nation.
Yikes. Maybe its time for Keri and her crewe to take up golf instead?

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