I have a friend who LIKES to ride from Redlands up to Big Bear. I swore I'd never do that. However, after I rode from my home in San Jacinto, up to lake Hemet, it may not be so bad. Maybe next year when I start logging more hills. My ride was 52 miles round trip and I was not ready for it. It had a rise of 3,500 feet to the summit. It didn't look that step on Google Earth.