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Originally Posted by Steely Dan View Post
i don't think the mississippi river is really the demarcation line because here in the great lakes region, chicago, toronto, detroit, indianapolis, and milwaukee are all highly gridded cities.
Sure there are exceptions but, for the most part, it's what I've found. St Louis, for example, is to the west of the Mississippi but, because it's older than when we started laying out cities based on the 40th Parallel. But it holds for Nashville, Knoxville, DC, all of New England, Cincinnati, Lexington, KY, Richmond, and a whole host of smaller towns through the eastern US that I've been to.

For a guy that was born and raised on the cardinal points of the compass...i.e. southern Colorado...and who can tell you where north is in a whiteout out there, navigating where the roads are all cattywampus is challenging.
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