Thanks for the input every one.
On my local craigslist is a 2012 Secteur Compact base model.
2012 Specialized Secteur Compact - BikePedia
The price seems good @ $400 and it seems the right size for me 58cm I’m 6’1.5” 33” inseam but it is lacking the Z-seatstays and I like the idea of disc brakes giving wider tire options. so maybe I want new but if new every major bike co. has a set of endurance bikes to choose from. Overwhelmed by my choices and as I tend to ride my bikes for decades choosing wisely will have long lasting consequences.
I have only ridden steel not sure I’ll be quick to notice the differences I will care about 30 to 300 miles down the road as the STI shifting will be new to me heck even index shifting will be new to me.
Sorry I’m rambling off topic,
sounds like the Secteur owners like the bike and the Specialized vibration dampening tech helps somewhat.