OK, here they are in their current state; dirty, with fenders and other junk on. When I took the bikes over to the new apartment, I noticed the empty room and blank wall provided just the right background. Lighting is not so hot, though. Don't ask why all the crap is on the race bike instead of the long distance bike - it's complicated. Besides, I'd rather subject the cf bike to messy roads than the steel one. Also, not shown are Cosmics that belong on the race bike, which make it look way hotter.