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Old 08-20-15, 07:09 PM
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What I consider "hilly" (Whittier Hills) and Mountains (GMR and 39) both average about 100 ft per mile round trip.

The difference is one has the up broken into 2-5 mile segments with about the same amount of down interspersed in about the same length segments, and the other is all up at once and then all down. Total elevation gain is about the same and incline on the up and down portions is closer to 200-300 ft per mile on either. Both about 60-70 mile rides.

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