I ride 28mm schwalbe marathon plus on my main commuter (touring e-bike.) I ride 23mm continental gator skins on my carbon fiber road bike - it sees a little bit of commuting time. Roads and MUP are in pretty good condition. I don't have complaints about either tire. I hate flats. Neither tire has had a flat since they were installed - 900 miles on the schwalbe, 300 miles on the conti's.