Originally Posted by
DMC707
How is it adding rocks when i clearly stated the difference is in the build, and the build should match the intent of the bike ? One would naturally build a race bike a bit differently than one that is designed for all day back country slogs
-- dont tell me your ignorant to this phenomenon too? I should expect nothing less from someone who names his bike after a porn star and suggests it must be the fault of the gay's that SC is painting their bike's in loud colors
First thing first.. there is NOTHING wrong with "adding rocks" to a bike to make a comparison. People do it all the time! So no harm no foul.
If you can't see you were "adding rocks" to compare weights, then I won't force you to wear the glasses. Sometimes it's best to just keep our eyes closed.
As for me and my comparison, the only thing I am comparing is the bikes themselves, which is basically just the frame. Both bikes are short travel bikes that can be built light. Of course the Tracer will always be at least 3/4th pound heavier due to the extra frame weight.
What you did to your weight comparison was add "3.25 lbs" of rocks to make it look like the Tracer is 4 lbs heavier. I myself, actually went from a SC-Superlight to an Intense-Tracer with the exact same parts. I could re-use everything except for the seat-post (I think, as I am it was a long time ago and my memory has faded). I eventually replaced the Bomber Fork to get more travel.
The Tracer suspension is more active, the bike tracks better, it is a real Full Suspension bike where the suspension that is working is used just as much for control as comfort. As a matter of fact, I still have the Tracer, it is "my fast FS bike". To this day, it is still a great bike.
My SC in 1999
My Tracer in 2015. Notice how almost all the parts are still the same parts that I had on the SC back in 1999.
Now rewind to 2003......
The Tracer is so awesome, that when I put DH tires and tubes on it to make it 5 lbs heavier, I still was able to decently go down Keystone! Here are some pics of Keystone in 2003
In the Cabin
On the lift at Keystone going up
Going Down...
This is a big drop off, but you can't tell from this pic how high and steep it was
A water crossing with the Tracer.. a water crossing over a Bridge
