Thanks for the tips eveyone. I wasn't going to carry anything really heavy, I was thinking something big enough to carry a jacket and maybe a lunch, I could use for both touring and day trips.
I might nix the handlebar bags all together since I have a lot of stuff on my bars already. B-Levers, GPS and computer. I still need to add a light. Or maybe I will just buy a smaller one.
I was looking at the
Minoura Swing Grip to give me a bit more room.
What about those rack trunks? Can they be used with panniers? I was also thinking of just using the trunk during day trips and add the trunk to panniers for a tour.