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Old 05-13-16, 06:07 AM
big chainring 
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What's with this KOPS thing?

The older I get the further back I like my saddle. Weather my knee is over the pedal spindle , I don't know. That's just me.

What I notice in observing the "average" kitted out euro biker type, is they are way forward in the saddle. Their knees are well past the pedal spindle at the 3 o'clock position. Is the KOPS thing no longer the standard? I see it referred to often in fit topics here.
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