I find I don't need/want to carry my house/car/etc. keys with me when I ride, just no need for me, bulky and for me just doesn't work. Love the idea of a separate doohicky fob thingy that I could attach/detach from my main key ring. It would have enough substance to be found easily and I could take it with when I travel with my main set of keys. Thanks for all the replies I know this seems simple but I got some good ideas and I appreciate it.