Who here hates e-bikes? No one is suggesting there is anything wrong with or bad about e-bikes. I don’t care what form of transportation you choose to get from Point A to Point B. The OP came here to pose a question about appropriate e-bikes for e-touring, when there is an e-bike subforum dedicated to such discussions. Since this subforum is dedicated to bike touring, I will refrain from posting further in this off-topic thread. Carry on.