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Old 12-26-18, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Road Fan View Post
...BTW, I don't think there was any such thing as an Ideale Professional. ...
For nearly a couple decades ca 1948-1966? most of the better quality Idéale saddles were available in two grades, the "type record" and the "professionel." The leather is the latter was treated to make it waterproof and "indeformable." The "professionel" had an aluminum badge affixed to the back, each with a unique serial number. The lowest numbers I've seen were around 4000, on saddles from the late 40's, and i don't remember the highest numbers. Somewhere over a quarter of a million. Anyway, the saddles that came in both versions had similar stamps; but the "type record" saddle stamps just have incuse letters, while the "professionel" stamps have an impressed background with raised letters.* Both of these were common on* model numbers 48 through 65 or so. On the early ones the manufacturer is identified as FT, on later ones TB.

Sometime in the 60's they gave up on the serial numbers.* By 1965 they reached 270,000, and up to that point they seem to have issued about 15,000 serial numbers each year. The highest number I've seen was under 285,000, so probably 1966.

"Speciale Competition" was another treated leather option, and it may have replaced the "professionel" treatment. Hard to tell after fifty years.

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