Originally Posted by
Johno59
BMW Audi , Mercedes etc wouldn't risk an ashtray made of military/aerospace spec carbon fiber composite.
You may argue that is an absurd argument. BMW will then ask "How many planes will use your composites this year? You answer '1000 units ! ". They will then say' We will build 4 million units' this year mein klein aschloch! ' and that will be the end of the argument.