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Originally Posted by dkyser View Post
Thanks, I am considering this bike and the All City Cosmic Stallion.
I really want to stay with disk brakes. If I want to upgrade soon the Surly Midnight Special also is a possibility.
Look at geometry in your size for the AC CS, Jamis Renegade, and Surly Midnight Special. How different are the HTA and STA frame anges, bb drop, fork rake and trail, etc? Those 5 measurements affect how a bike feels way more than if something is made from 631 or 853 steel. Or in this case, those 5 measurements affect how a bike feels way more than if its made from private label ACS(i think?), reynolds 631, or generic double butted 4130.
Oh, and the Surly is designed to be a 650b road+ bike. Not sure if that matters to you, but FYI in case you hadnt noticed.
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