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Originally Posted by wolfchild View Post
Complete lockdowns are not sustainable long term and it will do more harm than good to the economy and the entire population.
Yeah, because losing several million citizens is better than losing several million dollars.
Originally Posted by wolfchild View Post
Governments need to come up with a better strategy. They should only be targeting people who already have the symptoms and people who are in a higher risk category, you can't just put an entire population or an entire city under one massive house arrest and then threated them with fines and jail...
has the fact that people can spread the disease for about five days without showing symptoms not passed by you yet? Or have you just let it go right by without paying attention? By the time someone has shown symptoms, he or she has been spreading the virus for about a week.
Originally Posted by wolfchild View Post
The middle class and poorer class who live paycheque to paycheque and smaller businesses will suffer the most and the economic damage will take very long time to recover...
I am not a doctor, but I think dead people take even longer to recover .... However things like mortgage payment moratoriums and benefit payments ....the government is Trying to ease the pain. But since this sia GLOBAL situation (please do try to think on the actual scale, not just what you see in your neighborhood) the economic impact is going to be ....w ell, Global. The cost of the CCP letting this disease spread is going to be monumental. Of course the poor will get it worst. That is the society we have built. Hopefully, possibly, we will learn some lessons and rebuild in a more equitable manner.
Originally Posted by wolfchild View Post
Just yesterday one of our very popular conservation parks which is used for hiking and mountain biking has been shut down all because of few individuals who were breaking the social distancing rules and some were parking illegally and entering the park without paying. I don't think it was necessary to close an entire park, all they had to do was to enforce the rules and target those few irresponsible individuals who were breaking the rules.
Now multiply this by the entire nation, and imagine how many police it would take just to keep idiots from undermining the entire quarantine program. And thosepolice officers would then be at risk.

To me this sounds like one person whining because his local park was shut down. Weigh that against people whose family members have died because of some idiot who said "I'm not high-risk, screw the old folk."

This situation straight-up sucks .... but we built a house of cards and decided to tell each other it was a steel and glass skyscraper. Now we all see that we are vulnerable, and everyone is freaking out because fantasy has met reality.

Most smart people Always have a couple weeks' supplies of stuff on hand, just in case. Most smart people aren't overextended on credit. Most smart people recognize that nature is a huge and powerful force, and coupled with human stupidity, willful ignorance, and greed, is almost irresistible.

Yet, most people are not smart. And while it is sad, everything has to be aimed at the lowest common denominator. You cannot have a quarantine which affects all but the stupidest five percent, because that five percent will spread the disease to everyone else. So, harsh rules have to be made.

We are people who lived, compared to almost any era prior to this, lives of unimaginable luxury: heat, a/c, plumbing, electricity, refrigeration, safe, powerful, rapid, and protected transport, safe and solid houses, mostly crime-free streets ..... no raiding war-parties, no deadly predators .... and we took it all for granted.

Now when we still have 90 percent of all that luxury, we are whining.

One hundred fifty years ago, when infectious diseases spread, everybody just Died.

We are whining because we can't go to the local nature preserve.
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