Originally Posted by Russ Roth

I don't like or recommend anything below tiagra which seemed to get an upgrade in overall quality with the 4600 10sp group but even the 9sp group wasn't that bad. Sora has never been that good but passable for an entry level bike. My kid's road bike has Claris and it's just awful, even with jagwire housing and Shimano cables it doesn't shift well. Only thing that made it worth it was the bike only cost me 150 new in the box.