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Originally Posted by Iride01
Of the roughly 9000 fatalities caused by speeding vehicles in 2018 for the US, there were 36,560 other motor vehicle related fatalities.

Seems like money spent on something that is only less than 25 percent of the problem is not money getting used to it's fullest potential.

I know some think that if you violate the law you must pay. But look how long we've been putting drug offenders in prison since illegal drugs actually became illegal drugs. Well over 50 years. All the money spent on drug enforcement has resulted in no decrease in use of illegal use of drugs. How might that money spent on DEA, court cases and prisons been better spent on drug re-hab programs, intervention and just plain counseling with a therapist?

So IMO, dollars spent for speed cameras and red light cameras aren't going to do much for fatalities as would dollars spent for things that might address all the reasons for the fatalities and just accidents in general. Requiring some sort of additional training or even just making some go through a online course and short test even with no requirement for passing, prior to DL renewal might get people at least thinking about things more. Sure speed cameras probably show a reduction in the places they are, but likely it just makes un-monitored stretches worse. Again, IMO.

Of the 36560 motor vehicle related fatalities in 2018 only 857 cyclists were involved. Of those 857 it is not stated how many were from motor vehicles exceeding the speed limit. And the 857 number doesn't for certain say those were all motor vehicle related. Info from other sources suggest only 682 cyclist deaths as a result of motor vehicles.

https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api...ication/812826

https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/home-and...tality%20data.

And I know someone is going to say, "but if we only save one life". Well, what about the other 36,559 lives, wouldn't you want to have done something that would have saved more of them?
Except "Money spent" on automated enforcement leads to a revenue source. It's pays for itself and lots more. Money that could even be used for the stepped up training and testing programs mentioned.

The problem voters have with it isn't that it can't slow drivers down or reduce wrecks, it's that they know they speed almost all the time on almost every road, and they don't want to have to change that.
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