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Originally Posted by rosefarts
I completely agree with you about weight but you are making the wrong conclusion about carbon and other materials. It's the setup, not the frame material.

A carbon frame should be 950-1200g where an aluminum should be 1400g and steel is going to be 1800-2200.


So we're realistically talking 2.5 lbs difference from the pure racing rocketship to the friggin cast iron Surly. 19 vs 21.5 lbs for the same build. Can't exactly call either heavy.

Sure we'd all love to ride 2.5 lbs lighter but neither are a tank. Lower end metal bikes, old bikes converted, and vintage bikes with wide tires are heavy, almost entirely because of the setup, not frame.

Compare a Ritte Satyr or even a Motobecane 853 gravel to something carbon and comparable, and you're not going to see a huge difference.
That's totally fair. At one point I went full WW on my Raleigh Tamland and had it down to 21lbs. It felt light enough for sure.
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