Originally Posted by
dsbrantjr
My Icetoolz 4th hand works just fine, at about 1/3 of the cost of the Park.
I'm sure there are many that work just fine. In fact, from the pics online, my guess is that half of them are exactly the same, made in the same factory by the same slave labor. I've chosen the Hozan for now. Feel free to post any additional recommendations, but please don't be offended if I don't comment every time someone suggests another model.