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Originally Posted by 50PlusCycling View Post
I guess the COVID 19 forum is now the new P&R forum? But to play the game, one country among affluent countries has the largest number of obese and diabetic people, and more than 90% of COVID 19 fatalities in this country were among people who had 2 or more life-threatening preexisting conditions. America has been the fattest and most diabetic country in the world for many years, who do we blame for this? We should blame ourselves, no one holds a gun to our heads and makes us order a Double Gulp, two Big Bite hot dogs, and perhaps a burrito to go along with it. No one forces us to drive our cars to places we could walk to in 5 minutes. No one forces us to sit in front of computer screens or televisions for hours each day instead of being more active. But of course we cannot blame people for being personally irresponsible while the Orange One is sitting in the White House.

In case no one is aware, this one country among affluent countries has spent more per person to fight COVID 19 than any other country, vastly more. Even before COVID 19, this country spent more per person on healthcare than any other country in the world. It is not a lack of money which is the problem. The problem is that little of that money is spent on treatment, too much goes to law firms, insurance companies, corporate executives, and the politically-connected. The Orange One cannot direct how this money is spent, he signs the checks, the checks are cashed at the state level, yet no one blames those that actually spend the money for looting- I mean losing most of it.

But this is nothing new. This country spends more on education and infrastructure than any other country in the world, and most of the money vanishes before it reaches classrooms or highways. It has been this way for decades.

You can try to blame Trump for the severity of the crisis, but in doing so, you are supporting those who are the real villains, which can only make things works.
Nah, looking in from the outside, it's been all about leadership. Yes, your medical system is a giant money making scheme sucking the life out of the country, and that it is the populations fault for punishing any politician who dares to actually drain the swamp. But seriously, comparisons to the Flu, it'll go away by itself etc etc just gave the morons and uneducated social licence to continue being morons and uneducated, and actually turned that into a political statement.
Australia also has pretty high rates of obesity and diabetes. But our leaders got on board pretty early with saying "this is serious, take it seriously, do the right thing" and when new guidelines came out from WHO, generally adopted them pretty quick. Our prime minister, being of the Prosperity religious persuasion is still a little bit out of step with his "open up state borders so business can make money" and that is being reflected in his waning popularity.
What will be interesting is when the general population realise that even a mild case of Covid can have long term implications for circulatory health so letting it spread, even amongst healthy people isn't a good idea.
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