Old 12-27-20, 12:03 PM
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cruiserhead
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Carbon isn't "manipulated and shaped" It's put into a mold. The mold dictates the shape.
Aluminum can be highly shaped by hydroforming.

High quality aluminum and cheap carbon hit a crossroads in weight.

Carbon isn't inherently better. Good carbon is dependent on good manufacturing. 50% of a carbon frame is epoxy.
Construction quality matters. That costs money.

Carbon is inherently lighter so a fork with thick steerer tube walls and fork crown, will save a lot of weight.
On a frameset, the weight difference can be 0 to several hundred grams.

I would take a well designed scandium frame and give up a 2-300g with a far better performing rig than a cheap carbon one.
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