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Originally Posted by AeroGut
Also keep an eye out for used Ortlieb ones. Some people get them and go on one trip and never use them again so they end up on Craigslist or FB marketplace etc. in essentially new condition for substantially less than new prices
Yes, this is a better bet. If you buy Ortleibs, keep in mind you can use them a year or two and sell them for a pretty good price too. Used generic panniers are basically unsellable; used Ortleibs sell in a flash. Ebay often has used Ortleibs for sale at $100 - $130 a pair for rear rollers and that is a pretty good deal for both seller and buyer. Our shop also rents Ortleibs by the week and there are online sources that ret them as well.

The Arkels are great but near the price of the Ortleibs.

Think of the incremental additional cost for Ortleibs, not the total cost, and think what you would pay at the end of a long rainy day in the saddle and to not be opening up a soggy sleeping bag and nothing left that is dry to put on. Then spending the next AM looking for a laundromat where you can put everything you own in a clothes dryer and trying to repack everything in garbage bags you just bought to hopefully keep your newly dried clothes from getting soaked again. Then trying to make up the half day you just lost... What would you pay to avoid that mess?

There are some good Ort alternatives out there, but those good alternatives are around the same price as the Orts.
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