The one time I got to meet Pino was in Milwaukee before a race. I just sat there and listened to him talk. He was incredibly inventive. He came to Trek and tried to sell them one of his fixtures but they didn't want to pay, so they wasted a lot of time building one of their own. Not sure it ever saw service. Their original fixtures were pretty clever. His were beautifully machined, I'm pretty sure Dave Porter has one.