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Originally Posted by rosefarts
This is an easy one. Get a Richey Outback. Well into the comfort zone but has going fast in its heart.
They are super cool and I considered an older model for a brief moment, then dropped it hard since the tire clearance was a joke and the geometry apparently fits up to about 6' or so.
The XL frame has 606mm of stack and 396mm of reach.

I understand when generic china built carbon frames only go up to 590mm or so, but Ritchey not selling anything over a 610mm stack height gravel/adventure bike seems like a big miss for market share. They have said there isnt a big enough market for a larger frame, but pretty much every other brand seems to disagree.

Anyways, 606mm of stack and 396mm of reach doesnt scream 'relaxed' or 'touring' and it definitely seems to lean closer to 'racer position' which is what the OP doesnt want.
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