It's a sad day. Still today, most frames being ridden have cable housing stops all over them so if you want to upgrade to a new Ultegra group it's going to look like crap. So stupid. I think I'm about to order an R8000 group just to have before they totally disappear, which won't be long. Matter of fact, if I was smart I'd buy a bunch of R8000 stuff now and make a nice profit in the future.