Originally Posted by ThermionicScott

BTW, I think there's something to be said for a short stem and long-reach bars. Yes, it looks a bit goofy, or at least not very modern. But the longer ramps can give you a very comfortable position behind the hoods, assuming the bars don't have a weird shape that precludes it. And when you have chosen the right stem extension to put the hoods and drops in the right place, having the bar tops a little further back lets you sit up a little more when you want that. I'm really happy with the 80mm stem + B115 handlebars on my rando bike for those reasons.