Originally Posted by
mstateglfr
A rando bike certainly could fit all the criteria of a gravel bike. And a gravel bike certain could fit all the criteria of a random bike.
Really not sure what your point is.
I am curious to hear what extras a rando bike offers.
Permanent lighting for one. I think most of Europe requires headlights (at least) on their bicycles. IHGs are the norm there but not here in the United States. Once someone gets to the higher distances where they ride overnight U.S. riders usually convert their lighting systems to permanently integrated systems. Seems like fenders, or mud guards if you prefer to call them that, really only come on touring bikes in the U.S. whereas Europe again treats them as necessary. (I've seen local riders here in MN with centrifugal cup holders mounted to their bikes.
) Who knows... probably shrader valves...