got to love the LBS. When I go into mine its like your part of sitcom or live entertainment. There are always a case of characters all knowledable about almost all topics, (or so they say). If my LBS doesn't have what a want he will call or send me to another shop where I rarely pay retail. On the rare occasions I use a vender or E-bay is when its a close out or discontinued item. Got to love the LBS