Originally Posted by gastro
They are the best clipless pedal to ride with regular shoes that I know of, but they still suck in that respect, especially when wet.
i pretty much agree... i have a pair and i think (at least with the larger cleats) they are the best i know of. they grip pretty well on most of my shoes, but the brunt of my pressure on the pedal is still on the clip, and those are super slick (especially when wet) i have yet to have my foot slip off the pedal in around-town riding
that said, my C mallets were well worth the money... i don't need the extra 80 grams myself