I am a recent brooks convert -- I bought a road bike a month ago - hated the saddle that came with bike, tried a terry and another brand - then brooks. I started with the b17 - too long for me on road bike - moved it to hybrid. The saddle felt good enough to me to try another model - team pro s - it was perfect for me on road bike. I just got a champion flyer s for downtube folder (it needs a sprung saddle for me to ride comfortably). For me - they are the best saddles I have ever ridden on - not broken in yet - the most miles on the team pro s - around 150 so far. It was a little tricky to get the tilt just right for soft tissue comfort - but sit bones were great from the start and now, with correct angle for me - saddle just disappears-