Originally Posted by sbhikes
I think you are all proving my point. The arguments all boil down to disagreements on what it means to act as drivers of vehicles and disagreements on how much responsibility drivers of motor vehicles have to treat us as drivers of vehicles. .
Where is there disagreement among vehicular cyclists as to how much responsibility drivers of motor vehicles have to treat us as drivers of vehicles? Has anyone argued that a motorist need not respect the right of way of a cyclist who is operating according to vehicular rules under some scenario?